Transcript: A Celebration of the 25th Anniversary of the American Chemical Society Publication, "The Journal of Inorganic Chemistry"
1986-Sep-10
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00:00:30 It is my pleasure tonight to officiate the 25th anniversary of the journal, which we now call Inorganic Chemistry, which is the period of all of us, in one respect or another.
00:00:59 We have some distinguished guests here tonight. This is not our normal business meeting that we normally participate in, but tonight is very social.
00:01:10 And we have with us President and Mrs. George Pimentel, so we have higher management here.
00:01:19 We have past President, Bob Parry, and we have past editors, Bob Parry and Ed King, and we have past and present editorial board members out there, and we have some distinguished guests.
00:01:41 Two people come to mind that should be here, who could not be here. One is Henry Toddy. Henry Toddy had a vital role to play in the founding of this journal, as did John Baylor. Neither of these gentlemen could be here with us tonight. I'm sorry about that.
00:02:04 While I'm up here, I wanted to also point out we have two award winners with us tonight. Steve Whipper has just been announced he is the winner of this year's Monsanto Award in Inorganic Chemistry, and Hugh Shriver is the winner of the Distinguished Service in Inorganic Chemistry.
00:02:34 So there our editorial board also does some good research. And before we begin the seating, I think we ought to introduce three other people who are here who play a very important role in the journal production.
00:03:03 He's taking care of editors, basically. I'd like you to stand up. I'd like Rhea Reaver, my secretary, to stand up.
00:03:15 Rhea sees all the manuscripts before anybody else. She opens all the envelopes. She has all the heartaches. We get envelopes from India that have no envelopes left.
00:03:33 She organized tonight's party from a personnel point of view. Also with us tonight is Joan Williams.
00:03:48 Where is she, Joan? Stand up. Joan Case.
00:04:07 You can still stand.
00:04:15 So tonight the way we would like to do this, I'm not organized as you all know, so we're going to have some short talks.
00:04:36 And the first person I'd like to have come up and address this is Bob Perry. Then we'll have Ed King, and then of course Ben Mattel will talk to us.
00:04:47 Steve Lippert has to catch a plane, so we'll put him up here after that.
00:04:51 Then Gail Stuckey and her case, Bruce Driver, Ed Solomon, Mike Bowen, and anybody else who at that point has the spirit, they certainly need to perform.
00:05:06 It's like we're out of spirit, so we're going to leave it at that.
00:05:14 So anyway, without further ado, Bob Perry, please come up.
00:05:25 Tonight is not really a birthday party, and Ed Solomon is not a baby. He's not even an adolescent. He's 25. He or she, I don't know which.
00:05:35 He's 25, and I think the celebration is in order.
00:05:39 And Brim has identified a number of distinguished people who are here tonight.
00:05:45 And there are two folks that I would like to call your attention from an earlier era when I first appointed the editorial board.
00:05:54 One of them is Gene Brim, and the other one is Tracy Ball. Will you guys stand up?
00:06:05 Gene has contributed as much, I think, to the economy of the country as many individuals in the ACS.
00:06:13 Gene had his name on the original papers for an election or a sieve.
00:06:19 And as you well know, an election or a sieve has made a lot of difference.
00:06:25 A lot of money.
00:06:29 A lot of money is right.
00:06:32 And Tracy Hall was the first man to make Artificial Diets, which is a pretty good dinner again, too.
00:06:38 And a lot of people made money on that, too, but Tracy is just one of them.
00:06:44 I'd like to congratulate Brett and Herb and Steve and Ed and Jack for doing a very good job on editing the Journal of the Day.
00:07:00 It's a job that's done with integrity, it's done with skill, and it's done with a rare ability to keep both editors, referees, and authors and readers happy.
00:07:13 And that's a hard combination to do.
00:07:16 They've done a good job. I think they ought to be commended.
00:07:19 But I've got to tell you a story about editors. You know, they're kind of a strange lot.
00:07:24 I'm afraid I broke it there.
00:07:27 It so happens that a couple of fellows were up in the Napa Valley and got involved in one of these pollutant rides, you know,
00:07:37 and a pretty stiff breeze came in from the west and took them way, way from the chase crew.
00:07:42 So pretty soon they were lost when they got out of there.
00:07:45 They looked down and they couldn't see anything that they recognized, but they saw a guy walking along the road.
00:07:52 So they turned down their burner and went down and sort of hovered around this guy on the road.
00:07:58 They yelled out to him and said, where are we?
00:08:02 Well, the guy looked around like this, he didn't see anybody.
00:08:06 They yelled again, where are we?
00:08:08 He looked up, oh, you're up in the balloon.
00:08:12 And the scientist who was in the balloon turned to the attorney who was in it with him.
00:08:18 He said, you know, that guy's an editor.
00:08:22 How in the world can you say that? You don't know he's an editor.
00:08:26 He's absolutely clear. The information he gave us was 100% accurate, but totally useless.
00:08:37 I'm going to tell you a little bit about yes, because tonight, this is, you know, the Bible starts out.
00:08:44 For those of you who missed Sunday school last year, it starts out as, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
00:08:55 Our story starts a little different.
00:08:57 In the beginning, John Taylor managed to talk the ACS board into creating a journal for the purpose of presenting inorganic chemistry.
00:09:08 Now, how he did this is a big mystery to me, as it is how God created the universe, but that's another story.
00:09:18 To get to go there, Alvin Henry was given the job of implementing this ACS recommendation.
00:09:28 I was in that order, received a telephone call from Dr. Henry who said,
00:09:35 We would like you to come down to Washington.
00:09:39 That's a Disney land he's from.
00:09:43 Talk to us about what an inorganic journal should have in it.
00:09:49 Well, you know, he said it would be a small group of people, and he said this would be a good thing to do.
00:09:55 Well, I was a very naive fellow, and I swallowed the line all the way out.
00:10:02 And I got down there, and Alvin Henry said to me,
00:10:07 You know, this small group is what? That's you.
00:10:11 And the thing that you'd like to have you do is to edit this journal of inorganic chemistry.
00:10:18 Well, I was quite impressed with him, and I guess that's why I did what I did.
00:10:26 Even though I didn't have the foggiest idea of what you're doing when you start a journal,
00:10:30 but you can tell you're running it after it's been started.
00:10:33 But there was a young man on the staff at the time, and he didn't know that.
00:10:39 And they helped me a great deal.
00:10:42 Making me cover was one of the chores that they handed me right off.
00:10:49 He said to me, What do you want for cover?
00:10:54 I said, I don't know. I don't go around with five or six different covers in my pocket.
00:10:58 I said, I would like to have something which is bright, light, and simple.
00:11:06 He said, You know, you really ought to be a politician.
00:11:10 You can do this, which is absolutely meaningless.
00:11:15 So he had a number of people draw up some model covers.
00:11:20 One of them is the one that you are very familiar with today.
00:11:24 It simply had one important difference.
00:11:26 It had a small i and a small c.
00:11:30 Small i for inorganic chemistry and a small c.
00:11:33 Well, since the editor wasn't E.E. Cummings, I objected to this rather thoughtfully.
00:11:38 But I thought we ought to change it to a large i and a large c.
00:11:42 There was one lot of argument about it, but ultimately the change was made.
00:11:49 One of the things that surprised me when I started in this job was that there was considerable objection and considerable resistance.
00:11:59 I'm mentioning this to you largely because I think it is something which is at least one fairly serious note that any board has to recognize.
00:12:09 That is, one of the questions we were asked was,
00:12:14 Are you folks as inorganic chemists getting your work properly published in JCS?
00:12:19 It's a good question.
00:12:20 Oh, I should be able to talk about that.
00:12:22 I'm going to be quite honest.
00:12:23 The answer was yes.
00:12:24 Both inorganic chemistry is going to be published properly and effectively in JCS.
00:12:30 So why do you need a new journal?
00:12:32 Well, John Boehler was, I think, perceptive enough to see that JCS was under considerable pressure,
00:12:39 page pressure at that time, and he could see that there was going to come a time when it would be all on him.
00:12:46 The physical chemists had journal of physical chemistry, the journal of chemical physics, the organic chemists had JOC,
00:12:54 and the analytical chemists had analytical chemistry, and we had none.
00:12:59 And John's argument was quite persuasive.
00:13:04 But there's a deeper question involved here, and that is,
00:13:08 How much can you subdivide your subject matter to still maintain a viable journal?
00:13:15 And there isn't any easy answer.
00:13:17 What you have to do is you have to have a wise editorial board, a wise group of editors,
00:13:24 who know the area enough to tell you when you've divided past the point of no return.
00:13:30 I think we passed the first test when organometallic chemistry was proposed.
00:13:35 I think the inorganic community decided that this should be handled, and then wisely went along.
00:13:41 I think the time has been indicated by the judges.
00:13:44 How much more you can subdivide will have to be answered as the question comes up.
00:13:49 It doesn't mean you have to always say no.
00:13:51 If you say no, that's why the publisher flew in.
00:13:57 One of the things that I found was it was necessary to recruit papers.
00:14:00 I wrote to a lot of medical chemists, a lot of inorganic chemists,
00:14:04 and said, Send us your best papers.
00:14:06 And the community responded wonderfully.
00:14:08 I think we were all indebted to those people who helped do that.
00:14:14 But there were a lot of things that I tried that didn't work.
00:14:16 I'm going to finish with this in a minute here, but there were a lot of things that I tried that didn't work.
00:14:20 And one of them, fortunately, is in the area I'm told,
00:14:23 During the development of the Navy project on high-energy fuels,
00:14:32 the carboranes were discovered in a couple of industrial labs,
00:14:39 and the papers were sent in and promptly accepted.
00:14:42 And I thought I would really be a very clever editor
00:14:46 and have the nomenclature for this series of compounds laid out by IUPAC committees
00:14:54 and have the whole thing ready to go.
00:14:56 So I sent the descriptions of papers to members of the IUPAC committee on nomenclature
00:15:04 and said, Write me an article.
00:15:07 I'll put that article in front of the papers, the carborane papers.
00:15:11 Then we'll have this nomenclature business all cleared up.
00:15:14 There won't be anything like elements, unquote and so on,
00:15:19 whatever the names are at the end.
00:15:21 And there won't be questions such as the arguments about numbers, periodic table,
00:15:27 all that kind of thing, you know.
00:15:30 We'll have it all laid out in advance.
00:15:32 Everybody will agree to it.
00:15:34 So that was all done.
00:15:36 I was congratulating myself.
00:15:38 And then there was a young fellow down at the University of California at Riverside
00:15:44 who was rapidly becoming Mr. Carborane.
00:15:48 This guy was really a very bright guy, a very productive guy, a very likable guy,
00:15:55 a guy who really was dedicated to the proposition the IUPAC rules were no good.
00:16:03 Boy, did you know if you use those IUPAC rules,
00:16:08 I can't name these compounds after old shoes, after tennis rackets,
00:16:14 after spiders, after baskets, after jugs, all this kind of thing.
00:16:21 So he said, You can't do this to me because it's going to stifle my creativity.
00:16:29 Well, you know, I didn't expect this kind of thing.
00:16:31 It sort of overpowered me all of a sudden.
00:16:34 So we retreated.
00:16:36 Today, we have some cationides, some dipolides, some canastides, and some more.
00:16:44 How about that, Fred?
00:16:47 That's all you have.
00:16:49 Those are all Spanish.
00:16:52 Those are all Spanish.
00:16:55 The IUPACs have a proper Spanish representation.
00:17:00 Well, it didn't take me long to decide that the editorship needed to change,
00:17:08 and I told Dick Belknap that he wanted to get out of this thing.
00:17:14 And Dick said, Well, you can't get out because you help us find a replacement.
00:17:19 So I gave him three names.
00:17:22 One of them, the first name I gave him was a fellow named Ed King.
00:17:27 I gave him quite a lot of propaganda about what a fine fellow Ed was.
00:17:32 He's a very good writer.
00:17:34 He talks like a scientist.
00:17:36 And so it didn't take very long until they called me up and said,
00:17:40 Now, we want you to invite this man over to Ann Arbor to see what it's like to be an editor.
00:17:50 To see what has to be done in the editorial area.
00:17:53 So I called Ed up.
00:17:55 He came over and had a pleasure to stay.
00:17:57 And then that evening, my wife and I took Ed out to dinner.
00:18:01 After that, we took him home.
00:18:03 On the way home, Marcia looked at me and she said, He's such a nice man.
00:18:08 Does he know what you're trying to do to him?
00:18:12 Ed, you're going to answer that question.
00:18:16 Well, I suspect the five years I was editor was a period in which the journal was sort of getting rolling.
00:18:30 The five years I was editor of the journal, there was five issues a year each year.
00:18:40 And the number of pages went from 1,800 to 2,700.
00:18:45 Right now, last year the journal published 48.
00:18:56 Bob Taylor, who was an associate editor with Bob Perry, helped out during the transition period for several months.
00:19:06 But there was a period, the last half of 64 and 65 months, there wasn't an associate editor anymore.
00:19:18 It was sometime during this period that Piper, Aaron Piper,
00:19:25 Piper was on the phone.
00:19:28 I didn't think he was on the phone.
00:19:30 Piper was on the phone.
00:19:31 I wrote him a letter.
00:19:32 It's something on a paper.
00:19:35 It says, Your editorial staff can handle this.
00:19:39 Your editorial staff was rude.
00:19:42 I mean, it was a long, long journal.
00:19:46 It was supposed to be long.
00:19:48 I'm not taking sympathy.
00:19:57 I'm going to build up to how Fred got into the act.
00:20:04 Fred must have come to Boulder in the middle of the winter in 65, 66.
00:20:14 I recall getting back to the airport and was on that ride to the airport that I asked him if he'd like to be an associate editor.
00:20:22 I assume I had gotten the approval to get to Boulder.
00:20:26 Not that Fred was going to turn in the group to handle Piper.
00:20:32 But in any case, I refresh my memory by looking at the mastheads.
00:20:38 Fred appeared on the masthead in April of 66.
00:20:43 And then January of 67, Jim Ivers appeared on the masthead.
00:20:49 And I think that, in fact, the journal has a good reputation for publishing high-quality,
00:20:58 crystallographic entries.
00:21:03 Was Jim in the group?
00:21:05 Well, I think Jim got us off on a good course.
00:21:09 And that tradition, I guess, has prevailed.
00:21:14 Now, by the time I stepped out, the journal did, in fact, get more associate editors than we still have.
00:21:27 And I think this period of Fred being an associate editor led to him being an editor.
00:21:35 And, you know, it's terrific.
00:21:38 Bob had the job two years.
00:21:41 Fred had the job five or five years.
00:21:43 Fred hasn't had the job in 18 years.
00:21:46 What kind of an equation?
00:21:49 Well, Fred doesn't have a very simple equation.
00:21:55 Now, do you want to take notes?
00:21:59 N raised to the Nth power plus 1.
00:22:05 For N equal 1, it's equal to 2.
00:22:10 For N equal 2, it's equal to 5.
00:22:12 And for N equal to 3, it's 28.
00:22:16 Fred, you have 20 years.
00:22:24 Those in the VCS office have to handle N equal 4.
00:22:27 It's 257.
00:22:33 That's all I have to say.
00:22:42 Five more years.
00:22:45 I think we'll see.
00:22:47 Our next speaker is the boss, the president of the American Chemical Society here.
00:23:01 I want to say, first off, how much I am pleased to be here tonight to share the celebration with you.
00:23:10 At that point, I have to say that I'm sorry to tell you that I'm bringing lots of problems to you tonight.
00:23:19 I was asked by Ed, or maybe by Fred, maybe told, for the better way,
00:23:26 to say that I should not be serious with my comments this evening,
00:23:31 but I have a serious matter on my mind that I want to bring before you.
00:23:36 That's one of the unpleasant things I want to mention,
00:23:40 and that has to do with the periodic table.
00:23:49 The periodic table, of course, deals with carbon and the rest of the elements.
00:23:53 The rest of the elements are inorganic,
00:23:55 and so I feel that this group is a very important group in considering the proposed new periodic table.
00:24:04 So even though this is a serious topic, I feel obliged to bring it up now.
00:24:11 My second problem is a matter of credentials.
00:24:16 You can imagine that I feel a little uncomfortable here, particularly at this podium.
00:24:23 Many of you don't realize that I'm an inorganic chemist.
00:24:27 So I feel obliged to spend some time first establishing my credentials,
00:24:33 so that then you will be willing to pay attention when I get to the real business of my talk,
00:24:39 which is the periodic table.
00:24:41 Even mentioning the periodic table gives me a bit of a problem.
00:24:46 I always used to use interest in the periodic table as a similarity test.
00:24:57 Unfortunately, I find myself perhaps not passing that test.
00:25:05 In any event, now I have to go back to my early days to show you why.
00:25:10 I know that Ed realizes that I'm an inorganic chemist, and most of you don't.
00:25:15 It began, really, in an undergraduate course at UCLA,
00:25:19 and this really is probably where my interest in the periodic table began,
00:25:25 because we had an assignment that each person had to pick an element that was,
00:25:31 you know, any one out of eight, then 92 elements,
00:25:35 and run a report on how the atomic weight, which was now accepted, had been measured.
00:25:42 Well, at that particular time as an undergraduate,
00:25:45 the course that was giving me the most trouble was German.
00:25:50 So I said, I'm going to pick a Blasen element where I will be reading eight,
00:25:55 and so I looked at all the periodic tables, and I picked columbium.
00:26:00 I figured, well, columbium, that's going to be amazing.
00:26:04 The first paper I read that had anything to do with atomic weight
00:26:09 indicated that columbium was also called niobium,
00:26:12 and niobium was the German name in all of the atomic weight work that was done.
00:26:19 I felt that was, that indicated there were problems with columbium.
00:26:26 So I thought that the evidence of this problem well before I was diagnosed.
00:26:32 In any event, I didn't do well in math.
00:26:35 I wasn't doing well in lots of things, as a matter of fact.
00:26:38 The organikers could tell I was not good with materials,
00:26:41 but organics, I just didn't have a good enough memory.
00:26:44 I remember one time, Bill Young, who was the instructor in one of my undergraduate courses,
00:26:49 said, come and tell us the trouble with you is you think too much.
00:26:52 Don't you ever smell the columbium?
00:27:00 Nevertheless, I established myself with some,
00:27:04 what I like to think is quite outstanding work in organic chemistry.
00:27:09 I worked as an undergraduate research student for Professor Kroll, Bill Kroll,
00:27:15 and he was interested in osmium tetroxide
00:27:18 and was doing chromous titration with osmium tetroxide.
00:27:23 So it was my job to do accurate, precise titrations with chromous.
00:27:30 And my work there, I'm not a devotee of citation index and that sort of thing,
00:27:35 so I can't really say,
00:27:37 but my guess is that if you looked at citation index,
00:27:40 you would find that my notebook is quoted there more often than anyone else
00:27:44 showing that oxygen leaks through heavy wall rubber tubing.
00:27:51 You cannot keep chromous titrate constant.
00:27:55 That was my major accomplishment there.
00:27:57 Another bit of my participation as an organic chemist
00:28:05 was associated with a test I took in quantitative analysis.
00:28:09 And I had done research as well as a freshman in chemistry,
00:28:14 and this particular test I neglected to do any study for.
00:28:18 And Professor Kroll asked if the test could balance an equation
00:28:23 which involved I3 minus.
00:28:25 And I just crossed this off the notes at the time.
00:28:33 That's not well received.
00:28:39 These things came back to haunt me.
00:28:42 It turned out that my first job was to go up north
00:28:47 and work on the Manhattan Project,
00:28:50 which I did for a year where I met Ed King.
00:28:53 And I worked for Bob Conant,
00:28:56 and I suppose his credentials would be acceptable to you.
00:29:00 And one of the problems he put me on was a problem that was very troublesome at the time.
00:29:07 Of course, the whole business of the project was to figure out
00:29:10 how to get plutonium out of that mess of all of those fission pockets
00:29:17 across the whole periodic table.
00:29:19 And it turned out that under certain circumstances,
00:29:23 precipitates would maliciously appear,
00:29:27 and they didn't seem to do anything very sensible or reproducible.
00:29:32 But the problem was the precipitate would carry along all of the plutonium.
00:29:37 So Conant indicated we were going to look into this,
00:29:41 and it turned out to be neobium pentoxide.
00:29:51 Well, it turned out to be kind of a humorous thing
00:29:56 because, in fact, that was my first publication.
00:30:00 Oh, I should say right now that one of my primes is that
00:30:03 I've never had a manuscript rejected by the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry.
00:30:08 It's all published.
00:30:15 As it turned out, we discovered that neobium pentoxide was indeed
00:30:22 a very good way to establish plutonium from a solution.
00:30:27 We got so good at it that it turned out that it was patented
00:30:33 as a possible way of purifying plutonium.
00:30:36 And so my first publication is on the purification or extraction of plutonium
00:30:42 with neobium pentoxide purification.
00:30:46 Again, my guess is that many of you haven't read this.
00:30:52 Perhaps in part because it was secret for about 15 years.
00:30:57 So no one ever used this process.
00:30:59 It was a secret for a long, long time.
00:31:02 Well, then I3- came back to me.
00:31:06 I never quite could accept that there really was an I3-
00:31:11 and I've got zero on my balance of that equation,
00:31:15 and I didn't feel that was quite fair.
00:31:17 And so I decided that there must be something wrong with Paul I3-.
00:31:25 It's largely his fault.
00:31:27 It doesn't cause me to say there is no I3-.
00:31:31 So that got my interest into a molecular orbital.
00:31:35 I wasn't doing well in organic chemistry.
00:31:38 I wasn't doing well in inorganic.
00:31:40 So I became a chemist.
00:31:43 So I decided I'd look into the molecular orbital understanding of I3- and HF3-.
00:31:52 And I found this was a very comfortable way to describe both of those species.
00:31:58 And so I decided to write a paper about this.
00:32:02 And I wrote a paper in 1951.
00:32:06 I'm sorry to say, if you're looking for me.
00:32:09 And before I sent it in, I tried it out on Bob Connick.
00:32:14 Now, Bob Connick and I were playing squash once a week at the time,
00:32:18 and it was on the way down to the gym.
00:32:21 And I told him about this paper.
00:32:24 And those of you who know Bob probably know his answer.
00:32:27 He said, look, if this theory is any good, make some predictions.
00:32:31 Now, think about it.
00:32:32 I'm 5'8", he's 6'5".
00:32:34 He's nine inches taller than me.
00:32:36 He tells me to do something.
00:32:39 After the game, I went back to my office and I said, well, what am I going to predict?
00:32:45 I came to the unpleasant conclusion that I had to predict that there were inert gas compounds
00:32:52 and that they would have the structure of the polyhalogen, the polyhalide.
00:32:59 And so I put that into the paper.
00:33:01 And it's published in 1961.
00:33:03 And my guess is it's read as much as my notebook about it.
00:33:06 It's covered with rubber tubing.
00:33:11 In any event, that represents what I can lay before you as my credentials as an organic chemist.
00:33:17 And now I want to turn to the periodic table.
00:33:21 My guess is that here I'll antagonize some of you because I'm not really for the periodic table.
00:33:31 I'm actually useful as the president of the society.
00:33:34 I must be.
00:33:39 I confide in you that I feel that one doesn't change the periodic table very often.
00:33:47 And that if you're going to do it, you should do it right.
00:33:50 That is, go all the way.
00:33:52 Now, I thought of one approach, for instance.
00:33:58 You know the naming of the transuranics?
00:34:01 I think Bob calls it the Honequot notation.
00:34:05 I think that might have been considered for the entire periodic table.
00:34:09 Why shouldn't we be completely logical about that?
00:34:13 It, of course, is developed from the number of the elements.
00:34:18 If you've tried to pronounce some of those names,
00:34:20 you realize that you can say those names without opening your mouth.
00:34:26 It's not really the proposal I want to lay before you.
00:34:37 I don't think this is an advocate.
00:34:39 I'm merely indicating that there are other things that haven't been considered yet.
00:34:44 And this is my proposal.
00:34:48 When you come right down to it,
00:34:51 the proposal that's been made is to change the numbering of the columns, you know.
00:34:56 But my proposal is that we identify the elements in succession by letters of the alphabet.
00:35:03 So hydrogen would be A, helium would be B, lithium would be C.
00:35:09 And that's one.
00:35:13 Now this is the real genius of that proposal.
00:35:17 When you get to 26, then double A, double B.
00:35:22 I'm proud of that.
00:35:28 Now the names would be directly connected to the symbol.
00:35:33 Think how simple that would be.
00:35:35 Aseum, B, Baseum, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C, C.
00:35:42 That's lithium.
00:35:45 E, easy-um. E, easy-um.
00:35:49 Now, I realize that you're an international problem.
00:35:52 We would say aseum.
00:35:55 Europeans would say posseum.
00:35:57 I propose aseum.
00:36:01 Everybody will agree.
00:36:03 Now, I'm just going to try a couple of these.
00:36:05 I'm going to show you this is really quite a practical thing.
00:36:08 Calcium chloride.
00:36:10 That comes out of the t-zone, that Q-zone.
00:36:20 Phosphorus.
00:36:22 I like the cereal.
00:36:25 Phosphorus pentoxide.
00:36:27 Diozium pentahide.
00:36:31 Magnesium chloride.
00:36:33 Enium izide.
00:36:36 You can see that this really should have been bottom-up.
00:36:42 What I am seriously going to do is to appoint an ad hoc committee
00:36:49 to reopen the question of the IUPAC.
00:36:53 Now, in a notation, I shall, of course, submit my suggestions of other alternatives
00:36:58 and see whether we can't at least put in a little more time to think about this
00:37:04 before it becomes increasingly stony.
00:37:08 What I want to remind you of is some of the advantages.
00:37:12 You realize the problem of the notational thing.
00:37:15 If there's one system used in Europe and another system used in the United States,
00:37:21 and if you use their system, we're disadvantaged.
00:37:24 If you use our system, they're disadvantaged.
00:37:27 I have proposed here tonight to you a system that's advantageous to no one.
00:37:36 I think you deserve your seriousness.
00:37:46 Our next speaker is an associate editor of the Feynman Campaign Chemistry.
00:37:52 Thank you, Fred.
00:37:54 Tom Lear would be proud of you.
00:37:58 Leave it to a physical chemist to find a way to justify the equation A plus B.
00:38:06 Anyway, I have very brief remarks.
00:38:08 I'm already about five minutes late for my ride to the airport.
00:38:12 I just want to give a few anecdotes about what inorganic chemistry as a journal means to me.
00:38:17 I began graduate school in 1962, and the journal began in 1961,
00:38:22 and I thought that was particularly appropriate that I had the opportunity to be able to read every paper
00:38:28 that was ever published in a journal that was made in my field, inorganic chemistry.
00:38:34 I must admit, I don't actually own the first volume of that volume.
00:38:41 Jim Ivers was mentioned as a crystallographic editor.
00:38:44 As a young faculty member, I was led through crystallography by Jim.
00:38:50 I remember one of the comments he wrote to me along with referees' reports,
00:38:56 that the editor's role was to keep authors from making fools of themselves.
00:39:02 He was not sure that he had already exceeded his limits on my behalf in that regard.
00:39:10 I do remember Jim, but it's true.
00:39:14 He actually did a lot for us.
00:39:17 Inorganic chemistry is an international symbol of recognition.
00:39:21 Bob talked about the cover.
00:39:23 I'm sure that there are many of you who have said,
00:39:26 well, I'll be at the airport at such and such a time,
00:39:29 and if you carry a yellow journal in your hand,
00:39:32 you'll be sure to be recognized by me, or vice versa.
00:39:35 I will carry the journal.
00:39:37 I don't think many other fields can claim that.
00:39:40 Probably not many other journals.
00:39:44 I'm actually very proud to be part of the editorial team here.
00:39:49 I was first solicited, I think, by Herb K.
00:39:53 at the Gordon Conference.
00:39:55 We had discussions about my joining the editorial advisory board then.
00:39:59 There came a time when it was quite a serious question
00:40:02 about what one would do about bioinorganic chemistry,
00:40:05 whether we would have a journal in that field or not.
00:40:09 It was about the time when the Organometallic Journal was forming
00:40:13 and sort of splitting off in part,
00:40:16 and the editorial board decided,
00:40:19 particularly at the urgings of myself, Harry Gray,
00:40:23 and Ken Raymond at a meeting,
00:40:25 I remember that it was important to have a sub-area of bioinorganic chemistry.
00:40:29 I, of course, thought either Harry or Ken would do the associate editorship.
00:40:34 They probably thought one of the other two would do it,
00:40:37 but ultimately it fell on me.
00:40:39 So we made a modest beginning
00:40:42 and tried to focus attention on bioinorganic chemistry through the journal.
00:40:48 I think we're making some progress.
00:40:50 We've doubled the number of papers in the past couple of years.
00:40:53 We're not at the point where we're going to split off yet,
00:40:56 but I think it's made some progress.
00:40:59 So I really do have to go to the airport,
00:41:01 and that's really the few comments I wanted to say.
00:41:03 I think that Fred, 18 years, I didn't realize it was that long,
00:41:07 has done a wonderful job.
00:41:09 It's been a great pleasure.
00:41:11 He's almost a new kid.
00:41:13 I think Ed is the new kid on the block.
00:41:15 In working with the staff at ACF,
00:41:18 they've been very supportive.
00:41:20 Celia McFarland was supportive and understanding of me as an author
00:41:24 and I think even more so as an editor,
00:41:26 and I'm sorry that my wife, Judy, couldn't be here tonight,
00:41:29 but she's still recovering from various troubles.
00:41:33 That's really all I wanted to say.
00:41:35 My few moments, and excuse me as I have to try to catch my breath.
00:41:39 Thank you.
00:41:46 There you go, Erin Wong.
00:41:49 Your next speaker is a former Nimbus Association editor,
00:41:54 and that's Gaylen Sturteigh.
00:41:56 Gaylen was our traveling associate editor.
00:42:10 Corrugated.
00:42:13 Thank you, you did a great job.
00:42:21 Now tell us about it.
00:42:27 I'm going to talk primarily and very briefly about,
00:42:31 on behalf of the Inorganic Division,
00:42:34 in two years we're going to have another anniversary,
00:42:38 which will be the anniversary of the,
00:42:40 at least the 50th anniversary of the Inorganic Division,
00:42:43 which will be celebrated.
00:42:45 Of course, the Inorganic Division has been in bed,
00:42:49 or at least it's apparent, of course, in organic chemistry.
00:42:53 And it's benefited greatly from that relationship.
00:42:57 We now have in the, at the ACS meeting,
00:43:00 something like, I think it's about 100 more papers in the Inorganic Division,
00:43:05 which happens to be organic chemistry.
00:43:08 Maybe that's because they smell more than they think.
00:43:18 But the division is growing very rapidly,
00:43:20 and keeping control of such a division,
00:43:22 and what it produces in the way of publications,
00:43:24 is really quite a challenge as far as the area.
00:43:27 We're like someone who would like to keep it growing in a new direction,
00:43:30 maybe better than three.
00:43:31 And that we're, there are many branches growing out,
00:43:34 and keeping these in line,
00:43:36 that's been going on, it's quite a job.
00:43:39 And certainly, Fred has done a tremendous job in this respect,
00:43:42 and I'd also like to say thank you to them,
00:43:45 and to the ACS for their assistance,
00:43:49 and for their cooperation and collaboration,
00:43:51 along with the sociologists.
00:43:53 Thank you again.
00:43:59 Now our next speaker is a close colleague,
00:44:03 and colleague of UCLA.
00:44:08 We eat lunch together frequently.
00:44:12 We share a number of common opinions.
00:44:15 No one else sits with us.
00:44:19 I'm floating out of line.
00:44:23 I'm now referring to my good friend, Herb Gates,
00:44:27 who will tell us something very serious about Virginia.
00:44:32 This is a bad news.
00:44:41 When Fred said he'd like volunteers to say something about our 25th anniversary,
00:44:47 I volunteered to talk about the influx of manuscripts
00:44:52 that are published by foreign authors.
00:44:54 So, thanks to the R&D Department of Books and Journals,
00:44:58 I don't know if you know these guys exist,
00:45:00 but they have computerized the entire journal operation.
00:45:03 We have a computerized peer review,
00:45:05 and computerized files,
00:45:07 and it is rather easy once we go back on the database
00:45:10 to get these kind of numbers.
00:45:12 There's a person here with us in the State Department
00:45:15 that is responsible for this.
00:45:17 Now, we were not computerized in 1962,
00:45:19 so I actually had to go to the journal
00:45:22 and look at article by article
00:45:25 where the foreign papers came from.
00:45:27 We had six foreign manuscripts
00:45:29 out of something like 191 total manuscripts published.
00:45:33 That's 3% of the journal.
00:45:35 I don't know how many foreign manuscripts were rejected.
00:45:38 That's not available in published literature.
00:45:42 But, to take it a little more forward now,
00:45:46 starting in 1983,
00:45:48 which is where the database really came into play,
00:45:51 Fred is getting approximately
00:45:53 between 1,200 and 1,300 manuscripts per annum.
00:45:57 That's about 100 manuscripts a month.
00:46:00 40% of those are from foreign authors,
00:46:04 and I'm about to give you some of the statistics
00:46:08 of how they fare as far as rejections or acceptance.
00:46:12 These numbers, I guess, are classified.
00:46:15 The mistakes should not be revealed
00:46:17 until maybe 50 years from now.
00:46:22 Now, it turns out that our domestic manuscripts,
00:46:28 we only have something like 12% rejection.
00:46:31 1983, 12% domestic papers were rejected.
00:46:34 1984, only 10% were rejected.
00:46:37 In 1985, around 11% were rejected.
00:46:40 So, it looks like we're doing pretty well.
00:46:43 Our domestic authors can read our journal.
00:46:45 They can see what the standards are,
00:46:47 and if they think the paper doesn't meet up to it,
00:46:49 they do their own selection,
00:46:51 and they send it to other journals
00:46:53 like the Journal of Inorganic and Nuclear Chemistry.
00:46:56 And the successors are our other competitors.
00:47:00 My apologies to Malcolm.
00:47:03 Maybe you can do better, Malcolm.
00:47:06 But people do pre-select.
00:47:08 People do pre-select,
00:47:09 and we don't have a lot of trouble
00:47:11 if they know what we want.
00:47:13 For foreign-based manuscripts,
00:47:15 the following rejection ratio,
00:47:17 about 30% in 1983,
00:47:19 20% in 1984,
00:47:21 33% in 1985.
00:47:24 So, the foreign authors,
00:47:27 maybe they can't make the comparison,
00:47:29 or maybe they're just going to try to go fishing
00:47:31 like Jim Coleman loves to do,
00:47:34 and see what we can pull out.
00:47:35 And we have a lot of trouble with the manuscripts.
00:47:37 Because of that, I'd like to say
00:47:39 this brings up the point.
00:47:41 We shouldn't forget the people who review for us.
00:47:43 They are really the journal.
00:47:45 The editors can't really do the job
00:47:48 with 1,200 manuscripts a year.
00:47:50 And it does put an extra burden on reviewers
00:47:52 to first make the decision
00:47:54 whether there's something interesting in the thing.
00:47:56 Besides, if there is,
00:47:58 maybe some of them can help us with the English.
00:48:00 If not, that's what we have,
00:48:01 the people that were credited right at the beginning
00:48:03 of this gathering,
00:48:05 Leah, Joni, and Joni,
00:48:07 and I don't know how many other guys
00:48:09 abused their wives this way,
00:48:11 but these people in the editorial office
00:48:15 do go over the manuscripts that way.
00:48:20 So, we're proud of the internationalization
00:48:23 of the journal,
00:48:24 even though it means it's a bigger effort,
00:48:26 and there's bigger pain involved with it.
00:48:28 Nobody likes to have to reject the works.
00:48:30 It's more work to reject the works
00:48:31 because you have to tell a guy why it's no good.
00:48:34 On the other hand,
00:48:36 I think the fact that the journal is international
00:48:40 is a sausage break pie to us,
00:48:42 and we hope it's also a sausage break bread to us.
00:48:45 If international people publish,
00:48:47 then maybe international libraries
00:48:49 will put it on their shelves.
00:48:51 And we've seen this development happen over the years,
00:48:57 and we welcome foreign manuscripts.
00:49:00 We have a few foreign librarians with us tonight,
00:49:03 and though it means a little more work,
00:49:05 we're happy to do it.
00:49:06 Thank you very much.
00:49:07 Thank you very much.
00:49:13 On the subject of publication,
00:49:17 I think we ought to congratulate Mary Ann
00:49:20 and Celia and their co-workers
00:49:24 who have got us on the schedule.
00:49:27 You are the best-performing biblical publication
00:49:31 between the best of all publications
00:49:33 of the APM as of September.
00:49:36 Very good.
00:49:37 Thanks a lot.
00:49:43 Now,
00:49:45 next speaker is
00:49:46 Sue Traver,
00:49:50 who is a member of our charter board.
00:49:54 And an award winner.
00:49:55 And an award winner.
00:49:56 Right.
00:49:57 I'm the one that's not qualified to talk
00:49:59 to anyone else.
00:50:00 I'm either an editor or a president of a society
00:50:02 or a homeowner.
00:50:04 But you're a Northwesterner.
00:50:10 Well, the one point I did want to make
00:50:12 is the way inorganic chemistry really charted
00:50:15 the progress of our field.
00:50:17 It was, I think,
00:50:19 a very important publication
00:50:23 in terms of the progress of our subject.
00:50:25 It focused a lot of attention on inorganic chemistry.
00:50:28 It focused on inorganic chemistry at the time
00:50:31 and it was a very respectable profession I guess.
00:50:39 I started in 1950
00:50:41 in the inorganic chemistry industry
00:50:43 and the research momentum was very great at that time
00:50:47 but I feel there were many parts
00:50:49 in which it wasn't particularly good
00:50:52 in the first class.
00:50:54 But that's changed a lot.
00:50:55 I think one of the things
00:50:56 inorganic chemistry itself
00:50:58 I think happened to bring along with me
00:51:00 page one of volume one of inorganic chemistry
00:51:05 and it illustrates the progress in this area.
00:51:08 It's a paper by my colleague Greg DeSolo.
00:51:11 I don't know how he managed to get
00:51:13 to put me on there but
00:51:14 I'll let you know.
00:51:20 I'm on the end of it.
00:51:23 In any case,
00:51:24 it's a clever little paper
00:51:26 in which he describes the synthesis
00:51:28 of a nitroso compound
00:51:30 and the thing that led to this synthesis
00:51:32 was a mechanistic idea that he developed earlier.
00:51:35 But if you read through the paper
00:51:37 it's very simple.
00:51:38 He uses infrared spectroscopy
00:51:40 in terms of structure
00:51:42 and that's about it.
00:51:44 I don't know if he could publish that with me.
00:51:47 You would probably have to have
00:51:49 synthesized three compounds.
00:51:51 You would probably have to have
00:51:52 three crystal proteins.
00:51:53 That's a Jim Ivers standard.
00:51:57 It's remarkable
00:51:58 the look of the change
00:51:59 in the scientific material over the years.
00:52:02 We now have ten more students here
00:52:05 that need to be available to us.
00:52:08 Credit to the editorial people
00:52:10 that this has come about.
00:52:12 General Woody Hanna kept the record.
00:52:15 I think a lot of it
00:52:17 is due to the recent efforts
00:52:18 of Fred and Irv
00:52:20 blocking it up
00:52:21 and getting it to the primary areas.
00:52:23 We've got a lot of energy
00:52:24 across the table.
00:52:26 Any other physicists
00:52:28 can tell us what they think.
00:52:30 They are showing the breadth of our mission.
00:52:33 Thank you.
00:52:34 Thank you.
00:52:41 Our next speaker
00:52:42 is an associate editor.
00:52:45 Animals are papers
00:52:47 that are physical in nature
00:52:49 theoretical in nature
00:52:51 and can solve.
00:53:04 Let me start by congratulating Fred
00:53:07 and all the other individuals
00:53:09 who contributed to inorganic chemistry
00:53:12 over the last quarter century.
00:53:17 Being the associate editor responsible
00:53:19 for articles on physical aspects
00:53:21 of inorganic chemistry
00:53:23 I thought I would take this opportunity
00:53:24 to make some comments
00:53:25 concerning the field of physical
00:53:26 and inorganic chemistry.
00:53:29 These comments are given
00:53:30 on a somewhat personal level
00:53:32 as the field has played
00:53:33 a most important role in my life
00:53:35 over the last 15 years.
00:53:38 I came to physical and organic chemistry
00:53:40 from a work on chemical physics direction
00:53:43 and then I spent much of my graduate career
00:53:45 studying the first six wave numbers
00:53:47 in the first course
00:53:48 that you wouldn't be excited to take
00:53:49 because it's a D-5-9-8 ion
00:53:51 in an octahedral fluoride environment.
00:53:55 I did a lot of my graduate research
00:53:58 on the research of others
00:53:59 in the late 60s and early 70s
00:54:02 and when all returned to Hamiltonia
00:54:04 came together in a chemically correct way
00:54:07 one could get an extremely accurate agreement
00:54:09 between electronic structure
00:54:11 and electronic texture
00:54:12 and thus a fundamental insight
00:54:14 into the interaction
00:54:15 between a metal ion
00:54:16 and its ligand environment.
00:54:18 It was also clear to me at the time
00:54:19 that the basic concept
00:54:21 of inorganic chemistry
00:54:23 and ligand field theory
00:54:24 were well understood
00:54:25 on simple high symmetry systems.
00:54:29 About the same time
00:54:30 I had an opportunity
00:54:32 to attend an extremely interesting meeting
00:54:34 organized by Don McCormack,
00:54:36 my Ph.D. advisor.
00:54:37 The title of the meeting
00:54:38 was the exchange interaction
00:54:40 between ions and crystals and molecules.
00:54:43 The participants of the meeting
00:54:45 were all interested
00:54:46 in the electronic structure
00:54:47 and bonding of metal complexes
00:54:49 and covering the spectrum
00:54:50 from theoretical physicists
00:54:52 like Johnny Estado, for example,
00:54:54 to material scientists.
00:54:56 The participants of the meeting
00:54:58 also included some very distinguished
00:55:00 students in inorganic chemistry.
00:55:02 Harry Gray, Carl Bauhaus,
00:55:03 and Tom Spiro, Larry Dahl, Peter Day,
00:55:06 and others who all participated.
00:55:08 And it was at this meeting
00:55:09 that I decided
00:55:10 that I was going to become
00:55:11 a physical inorganic chemist.
00:55:13 And this wasn't because
00:55:14 Harry Gray at the meeting
00:55:15 announced his self-imposed decision.
00:55:17 It wasn't worth a new tennis ball.
00:55:23 But because I was fascinated
00:55:24 by the incredibly interesting
00:55:26 molecules being studied
00:55:28 and by the goal
00:55:29 of correlating electronic structure
00:55:31 with important physical properties
00:55:33 and particular chemical reactivity,
00:55:35 the more I've learned
00:55:36 about physical inorganic chemistry
00:55:38 since 1972,
00:55:39 the more fascinating it has become.
00:55:42 This is particularly the case
00:55:43 in recent years
00:55:44 as inorganic chemistry
00:55:45 has aggressively evolved
00:55:47 in many interdisciplinary areas,
00:55:49 such as bioinorganic chemistry,
00:55:51 material science, and metallurgy.
00:55:53 Now, this background
00:55:55 leads me to make two comments
00:55:57 concerning the present.
00:55:58 What I feel is the present status
00:56:00 of physical inorganic chemistry.
00:56:03 My first comment
00:56:04 is to address the scientists
00:56:06 who are not physical inorganic chemists
00:56:08 but who feel that the interpretation
00:56:09 of the results of physical method
00:56:11 is in some way subjective
00:56:14 or open to handling.
00:56:16 And my response to these scientists
00:56:17 is that this is simply not the case.
00:56:19 As I've tried to emphasize,
00:56:21 the concepts of physical inorganic chemistry
00:56:23 are extremely well-defined
00:56:25 and simple systems
00:56:26 and just waiting for application
00:56:27 of more competent technologies.
00:56:29 However, it is also the responsibility
00:56:31 of the physical inorganic chemists
00:56:33 to make every effort
00:56:34 to develop these concepts clearly
00:56:36 and to make these available
00:56:37 to the general inorganic community.
00:56:40 My final comment
00:56:41 is addressed
00:56:42 to the physical inorganic chemists,
00:56:44 and here I really must say
00:56:45 that I wish I could sense
00:56:46 more excitement and coherence
00:56:47 in our field as a whole.
00:56:49 We have the basic principles now
00:56:51 for the analysis
00:56:53 of most centrifugal and magnetic effects.
00:56:56 There are many important classes of molecules
00:56:58 waiting to be studied by physical method,
00:57:01 where an understanding electronic structure
00:57:02 will make a major contribution
00:57:04 toward an understanding reactivity.
00:57:08 We, the physical inorganic community,
00:57:10 should go for it
00:57:11 in a very concerted and positive way.
00:57:13 Inorganic chemistry, our journal,
00:57:15 has been the focus of our field since 1962.
00:57:19 I feel we should make the next 25 years
00:57:21 of physical inorganic chemistry
00:57:23 published in our journal
00:57:24 as exciting as the first.
00:57:26 Thank you.
00:57:27 Applause
00:57:34 The last speaker,
00:57:35 the final speaker,
00:57:37 is Mike Vaughan.
00:57:45 Mike is in charge
00:57:48 of the books and journals,
00:57:51 publications,
00:57:52 and all of this stuff.
00:57:55 He paid the bill.
00:57:56 He was charging it.
00:57:57 So hang on,
00:57:58 I forgot about that.
00:57:59 He's the counter manager,
00:58:01 he hasn't said.
00:58:03 Here he is.
00:58:07 I might as well admit
00:58:08 I'm a chemical engineer.
00:58:11 That's the way it is.
00:58:15 However,
00:58:16 after one hour of these particular talks
00:58:18 and some folks are looking
00:58:20 a little bit more rigid than others.
00:58:27 Move around a little bit
00:58:28 because we've got another 20 minutes to go.
00:58:32 We've got five minutes on this.
00:58:34 I know that.
00:58:36 On this sheet it says 20 minutes.
00:58:40 As a change of pace,
00:58:41 I should tell you that
00:58:42 there's a group of people
00:58:43 who have been on the wings
00:58:46 of the stage
00:58:47 to do this exciting drama
00:58:48 of inorganic chemistry
00:58:50 in its 25 years of life,
00:58:52 and those of us
00:58:54 who are on the staff
00:58:56 of the American Chemical Society
00:58:58 who, we like to think,
00:59:00 at least nurture and support
00:59:02 this originally struggling publication
00:59:06 in its present preeminent state.
00:59:09 We've worked with it,
00:59:12 for it,
00:59:13 and on behalf of it
00:59:15 since 1962.
00:59:17 Now,
00:59:18 it's been mentioned
00:59:19 that this particular publication
00:59:21 is growing in pace.
00:59:22 It started as a quarterly.
00:59:24 Dr. King said
00:59:25 that it was five times a year.
00:59:26 One publication I've ever heard of
00:59:28 came out five times a year.
00:59:30 And it's monthly in 1964,
00:59:32 bi-weekly in 1983,
00:59:34 and the whole damn thing
00:59:35 is exploding fantastically.
00:59:38 As far as we're concerned,
00:59:39 it's nothing but unrestrained expansion of trouble.
00:59:42 Are you giving us an alien position?
00:59:49 We've observed,
00:59:50 as we've heard from the editors
00:59:51 over the years,
00:59:52 that as the editorial pages grew,
00:59:55 the editors also grew visibly
00:59:57 in sagacity and judgment
00:59:59 and in wit
01:00:01 and in the appreciation of fine wines.
01:00:08 Dr. Hoffman is referred
01:00:09 as the third editor
01:00:10 and perhaps the fourth editor
01:00:11 and fifth editor as well
01:00:12 for the next 200 years.
01:00:18 As his interest
01:00:19 in the same gourmet
01:00:22 such as wines declines,
01:00:24 the Gallup associate editors
01:00:26 filled in as best they could
01:00:30 to the best of their poor ability.
01:00:34 You know,
01:00:35 for those of us on the staff,
01:00:36 the advisory board dinner
01:00:38 of Inorganic Chemistry
01:00:39 is one of the highlights of the year.
01:00:41 In good years,
01:00:42 you know,
01:00:43 when the sun shines
01:00:44 and the grapes are good,
01:00:45 there are two meetings
01:00:47 and they come to both of them.
01:00:50 For many years,
01:00:51 the truth is
01:00:52 that we discouraged
01:00:54 or dissuaded
01:00:55 the female staff members
01:00:56 of the American Chemical Society
01:00:58 from coming to this meeting,
01:00:59 especially with the coarse
01:01:01 and rival talk
01:01:02 of atomic coordinates
01:01:05 and the abundance
01:01:06 of excitement states
01:01:07 that we might have.
01:01:09 Dr. Grogan herself,
01:01:11 who's our most senior
01:01:13 female staff member,
01:01:15 has been permitted
01:01:16 only for the last ten years.
01:01:20 It's not in her name.
01:01:22 That's right.
01:01:23 Yes,
01:01:24 we've observed over the years
01:01:25 that Inorganic Chemists
01:01:26 not only had a fine,
01:01:27 dedicated scientist
01:01:29 but decidedly human beings
01:01:31 with all the foibles
01:01:32 and qualities and delights
01:01:34 that being a human being
01:01:35 brings with it.
01:01:37 We've delighted over the years
01:01:38 in many a key discussion
01:01:40 among the Inorganic Chemists
01:01:42 over their favorite subject,
01:01:44 which is, of course,
01:01:45 page charges.
01:01:49 Page charges,
01:01:50 in my view,
01:01:52 rank with a thumb screw
01:01:56 and ill-defined materials
01:01:58 as Inorganic Chemists'
01:02:00 least favorite thing.
01:02:03 My colleagues and I recall, well,
01:02:05 one particular discussion
01:02:06 about ten years ago
01:02:08 at which the first editor
01:02:10 of this publication,
01:02:11 Dr. Perry,
01:02:13 single-handedly had to fend off
01:02:15 the present editor
01:02:17 and his host of friends
01:02:21 at an advisory board meeting
01:02:25 at which page charges
01:02:26 were discussed.
01:02:27 Dr. Perry, at that time,
01:02:29 had moved on
01:02:30 to better things
01:02:32 and was president of the society.
01:02:35 I was just about to tell him
01:02:36 he was trying to persuade
01:02:38 these folks
01:02:39 that page charges
01:02:40 were a really good thing.
01:02:43 He fought a valiant
01:02:44 but losing battle.
01:02:46 Eventually, as you've heard,
01:02:48 the American Chemical Society
01:02:49 saw the light
01:02:50 and relieved Inorganic Chemistry
01:02:52 of the onerous obligation
01:02:54 to try to collect page charges,
01:02:56 which they were collecting
01:02:57 from two people at that time.
01:03:01 And in 1982,
01:03:03 they were suspended.
01:03:06 I should point out
01:03:07 that as a humble chemical engineer,
01:03:09 I discovered that
01:03:11 Inorganic Chemists,
01:03:12 distinguished ones,
01:03:13 were definitely human.
01:03:15 First in 1973
01:03:17 at the Dallas ACS meeting.
01:03:21 At that time,
01:03:22 Dr. Hawthorne
01:03:25 was the recipient
01:03:26 of the ACS Award
01:03:27 in Inorganic Chemistry,
01:03:28 which was sponsored
01:03:30 not as Steve's Award,
01:03:32 I think,
01:03:33 but by Texas Insurance.
01:03:35 And you recall
01:03:36 in those days,
01:03:37 the ACS used to
01:03:38 trot that old award
01:03:39 with this immense line
01:03:40 behind this huge table.
01:03:42 And Dr. Collapso,
01:03:43 Dr. Rogers,
01:03:44 my colleague at the ACS
01:03:45 would call those days.
01:03:47 And I never met Dr. Hawthorne.
01:03:48 I saw him
01:03:49 and I was very impressed.
01:03:50 He was dressed up.
01:03:51 He had a beautiful tuxedo
01:03:52 and a beautiful shirt
01:03:53 and the whole thing.
01:03:55 And I'd recently been given
01:03:56 some new dailies
01:03:58 in the administration
01:04:00 of ACS journals
01:04:02 and I was a little shy
01:04:04 and so forth.
01:04:05 And I went about
01:04:06 for the ceremony
01:04:07 and I introduced myself
01:04:09 and I said,
01:04:10 Dr. Hawthorne,
01:04:11 I'm Mike Bowen
01:04:12 from the journals department.
01:04:14 And this huge,
01:04:15 this dapper individual,
01:04:16 this suave,
01:04:17 well-dressed man
01:04:18 turned around and he said,
01:04:19 Hey man!
01:04:20 He said,
01:04:21 you're the son of a gun
01:04:22 who's been sending me
01:04:23 all that paper.
01:04:27 That's the gist
01:04:28 of what he said.
01:04:32 About Bulgaria.
01:04:35 Yes,
01:04:36 oh yes,
01:04:37 the Bulgaria comic paper,
01:04:38 yes.
01:04:39 That was the paper
01:04:40 we used for two years
01:04:41 in inorganic chemistry.
01:04:42 That was experimental,
01:04:43 wasn't it?
01:04:44 It was experimental,
01:04:45 yes.
01:04:46 It had an advantage
01:04:47 of efficiency
01:04:48 in the paper we used
01:04:49 in inorganic chemistry
01:04:50 in 1975
01:04:51 in that you could read
01:04:52 both sides
01:04:53 at the same time.
01:04:57 Yes.
01:04:59 But we're not all bureaucrats
01:05:00 in the books and journals
01:05:01 that they do right now.
01:05:02 I am,
01:05:03 I have to admit.
01:05:06 Now the best wishes
01:05:07 that we send to you
01:05:08 for the next 25 years
01:05:09 or 50 years
01:05:10 or 100 years
01:05:11 or 200
01:05:14 that come from
01:05:15 not only me
01:05:16 but my associate
01:05:17 Charlie Birch
01:05:18 over there
01:05:19 who's taken over
01:05:20 the duties of sending you
01:05:21 all the paper you don't want.
01:05:23 Mary Ann Brogan
01:05:24 and Mary Scanlon
01:05:26 and Franklin Menezes
01:05:27 our new staff member
01:05:29 and not least
01:05:30 Celia McFarland
01:05:32 in the department
01:05:33 in Columbus
01:05:35 who read your papers
01:05:36 slightly more intelligible
01:05:37 than they started off.
01:05:41 Lauren Garson
01:05:42 and Richard Love
01:05:43 and some of the other folks
01:05:44 in the R&D department
01:05:46 who render all the editors
01:05:48 electronically insulated
01:05:49 from one another
01:05:53 and our friends
01:05:54 in marketing
01:05:55 Sid Kistner
01:05:57 and her colleagues
01:05:58 who bring the message
01:05:59 of inorganic chemistry
01:06:00 to the unwashed
01:06:01 in Northern California.
01:06:05 All these folks
01:06:06 wish you all the very best
01:06:07 and they've enjoyed
01:06:08 working with you
01:06:09 and they wish you
01:06:10 all the best.
01:06:11 Good luck.
01:06:19 Unwashed
01:06:20 in Northern California.
01:06:22 That's a real word
01:06:23 for himself.
01:06:35 I remember that
01:06:36 19th century
01:06:37 awards dinner
01:06:40 that was quite a affair
01:06:42 and we were lying
01:06:43 to Jeff
01:06:46 and I think it was
01:06:47 George Whittington
01:06:49 somewhere
01:06:50 ahead of me
01:06:51 behind me
01:06:52 and I got his diploma
01:06:55 and we had a little
01:06:56 mix up
01:06:58 and I ran into you
01:07:00 and I had a bunch
01:07:01 of people
01:07:02 students
01:07:03 who followed me
01:07:04 all the way
01:07:05 from NBCLA
01:07:06 to Dallas
01:07:07 and UC Station
01:07:08 wagons
01:07:09 and we had
01:07:10 a bunch of parties
01:07:12 but I do remember
01:07:13 that day
01:07:20 I knew I had
01:07:22 I don't think
01:07:23 I'm going to last
01:07:24 10 years in this job
01:07:25 so you might as well
01:07:26 relax
01:07:28 I'm not going to take
01:07:29 this occasion
01:07:30 tonight to resign
01:07:33 that's not
01:07:34 that's a bad thing
01:07:36 but anyway
01:07:37 I think it's really
01:07:38 really neat to
01:07:39 have seen
01:07:40 the General
01:07:41 prosper
01:07:42 and change
01:07:43 his character
01:07:44 I really thank
01:07:45 the people
01:07:46 I didn't earlier
01:07:47 in the evening
01:07:48 I'm really quite thankful
01:07:49 for the support
01:07:50 that we have
01:07:51 as individuals
01:07:52 and as a group
01:07:53 from
01:07:54 ACF staff
01:07:55 and social
01:07:56 journalism
01:07:59 they make things
01:08:00 work
01:08:01 and do so
01:08:02 very well
01:08:03 and we have
01:08:04 first class
01:08:05 teachers
01:08:11 I think in
01:08:12 Seattle
01:08:13 we have C3
01:08:14 we have turkeys
01:08:16 we have
01:08:19 we have
01:08:23 that was their
01:08:24 response to our
01:08:25 rejection of
01:08:26 Dave's charity
01:08:28 I'm not going to
01:08:29 say anything
01:08:30 about that
01:08:31 immediately
01:08:32 but if you buy
01:08:33 two turkeys
01:08:34 you're on a six
01:08:35 percent budget
01:08:36 for turkey
01:08:37 parts
01:08:40 so let's start
01:08:41 on it
01:08:43 raise your hand
01:08:48 does anyone else
01:08:49 in the audience
01:08:50 feel moved
01:08:51 have a stare
01:08:52 if you want to jump
01:08:53 back
01:08:57 anyway folks
01:08:58 thanks for coming
01:09:02 I don't know
01:09:03 what the next
01:09:04 twenty five years
01:09:05 will bring
01:09:06 for Narragansett
01:09:07 I suppose we'll
01:09:08 spawn another
01:09:09 half dozen
01:09:10 journals
01:09:12 I hope so
01:09:13 if they're all
01:09:14 as much a
01:09:15 success
01:09:16 as the
01:09:17 Canada
01:09:18 Metallic
01:09:19 or whatever
01:09:20 thanks for
01:09:21 coming
01:09:22 see you all
01:09:23 later
01:09:24 thank you
01:09:25 very much
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