Chemists and Questions
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00:00:00 Whenever you have chemists, you have questions about all the substances in the world, their
00:00:12 structures, what happens when they are transformed.
00:00:22 Where do chemists look for answers to questions like these?
00:00:29 Are there analogs to this molecule?
00:00:32 Has anyone found this catalyst before?
00:00:36 What toxicity problems do I face?
00:00:40 Chemists look to other chemists, of course, or else they may learn the hard way.
00:00:47 Are you telling me that you didn't have the literature search before you started this
00:00:50 project?
00:00:55 A few generations back, you could put all the practicing chemists in one room and stack
00:01:01 the records of their experiments on one shelf, nearly all in one language.
00:01:07 Today, to ask other chemists, you would first have to contact thousands of them in plants,
00:01:16 universities, laboratories, or find out where they publish their results.
00:01:24 It could mean searching libraries of books, years of journals, miles of microfilm, sorting
00:01:30 through patents and proceedings in many languages.
00:01:36 Once the information from other chemists is in hand, today's scientists can evaluate the
00:01:41 findings to judge if he or she is on to something new.
00:01:45 That goes for biochemists, chemical engineers, physical chemists, and all of the fields served
00:01:51 by the chemical information profession.
00:01:56 That's why the Chemical Information Division of the American Chemical Society brings you
00:02:01 this presentation.
00:02:03 We're taking a new hard look at the role the information professional plays in these days
00:02:09 of high technology.
00:02:12 The information professional is the interface between the chemist and the information he
00:02:18 needs.
00:02:20 The Division of Chemical Information of ACS has over a thousand members.
00:02:26 When some of our committee members get together for a planning session, I can't help but be
00:02:31 amazed at the wide variety of interests, skills, responsibilities that are represented in such
00:02:37 a small group.
00:02:40 Chemical Information Division members are experts in all aspects of information management,
00:02:45 and most are trained scientists as well.
00:02:49 Some collect, index, abstract and organize the documents and data published by chemists
00:02:55 all over the world.
00:02:58 Others create the systems and computer programs, publish indexes, distribute abstracts of journals,
00:03:05 and consult with the chemists.
00:03:07 The astonishing fact, the challenge, lies in the way that the volume of chemical information
00:03:13 has grown in our lifetime.
00:03:16 A hundred years ago, Friedrich Conrad Bauschtein quickly sold out his original two-volume edition
00:03:22 of the Handbook of Organic Chemistry.
00:03:24 It had taken him working alone fifteen years to check and organize the information on fifteen
00:03:31 thousand compounds.
00:03:33 Today, Bauschtein has more than a hundred and ninety volumes and contains information
00:03:38 on four million carbon compounds.
00:03:42 It takes an organization of a hundred and eighty information professionals to do the
00:03:45 critical assessment and coherent ordering of validated factual information.
00:03:52 What is fourteen feet tall weighs more than three hundred and eighty pounds and fills
00:03:56 seventy-five volumes.
00:03:59 It's the tenth collective index to chemical abstracts covering five years.
00:04:03 The first collective index to C.A. covered the years 1907 to 1916 in three volumes.
00:04:11 Chemical Abstract Services has organized information on every chemical substance reported
00:04:16 in the open scientific literature since 1907.
00:04:20 C.A.S. also operates a chemical registry system that creates an atom-by-atom, bond-by-bond
00:04:27 connectivity table for each new chemical structure and assigns a unique C.A.S. registry number
00:04:33 for each substance.
00:04:35 Today, there are nearly seven million chemical substances registered in the system and they
00:04:41 are being added at the rate of seven thousand substances every week.
00:04:45 To accomplish this task, many highly trained information professionals monitor more than
00:04:50 fourteen thousand scientific journals in fifty languages, patents from twenty-six countries
00:04:56 and two international organizations.
00:05:00 On the input side, Bauschtein, Chemical Abstract Service, Mahlon, American Petroleum Institute,
00:05:07 American Institute of Chemical Engineers, Heilbron and others function like huge data
00:05:13 refineries.
00:05:15 These organizations collect raw data on worldwide chemical achievement, then screen, sort and
00:05:22 process it.
00:05:23 They present back to the chemist a compact retrievable array of hard facts, some in print,
00:05:30 some on microfilm, some stored electronically.
00:05:35 There are a lot of hard facts.
00:05:38 How to get the ones you want?
00:05:41 Is high technology, its systems and databases the answer?
00:05:46 In part, yes.
00:05:48 But there are problems.
00:05:51 Some chemists I work with feel it takes less time to set up the reactions themselves than
00:05:56 to plow through the literature to find out how or if someone else did it.
00:06:01 Some don't feel comfortable with the terminal.
00:06:05 You know, from an academic point of view, there seems to be a dilemma with regard to
00:06:10 chemical information storage and retrieval.
00:06:13 On the one hand, there is an appreciation of the importance of the information from
00:06:17 the scientific literature, but on the other hand, the cost to access this information
00:06:22 from commercial services is prohibitive to most colleges and universities.
00:06:26 However, in spite of this dilemma, some chemistry departments have now started collaborative
00:06:32 programs to provide additional computer training at both the undergraduate and graduate levels.
00:06:38 For example, in the Washington metropolitan area, there are several universities where
00:06:42 increased emphasis on teaching the use of computers in chemistry has begun.
00:06:48 I can't help thinking that more programs of this type will eventually give rise to a new
00:06:53 breed of chemists who are more computer literate.
00:06:57 I'm a chemist myself, and I agree that a lot of us know that the beginning of wisdom
00:07:02 is to ask the right question at the right time with the help of the right information
00:07:07 specialist.
00:07:08 But some of my colleagues cherish their own approach to information retrieval.
00:07:14 Last week, a man walked into my office.
00:07:17 He said he'd started in his corner of the building and stuck his head into every lab
00:07:22 all the way over to mine.
00:07:25 None of the eight chemists on the floor gave him the answer, so he asked me to get it online.
00:07:31 The walk took an hour.
00:07:33 The computer search took about 10 minutes.
00:07:36 It matches his question against results published by hundreds of chemists living and dead.
00:07:42 He got answers from 36 of them.
00:07:47 Online.
00:07:49 That means real-time, instantaneous interaction between a human operator and a computer.
00:08:01 Ask almost any teenager.
00:08:04 Millions of them are having lots of experience with instantaneous interaction with computers,
00:08:10 and all have learned two basic facts.
00:08:14 It costs money to use the equipment, and you get much better results if you're skilled
00:08:22 in the art.
00:08:24 There is, therefore, wide understanding that effective, instantaneous interaction with
00:08:30 a computer requires a certain investment in time and money.
00:08:37 The truth is, any one computer game represents a very small set of data that is committed
00:08:43 to only one operator at any one time.
00:08:48 Chemical information collectively is a huge database.
00:08:53 To keep costs down, the large, complex systems now available for various collections must
00:09:00 permit many operators to access the facts at the same time.
00:09:06 That's time-sharing, instantaneous, real-time interaction with a computer by many searchers
00:09:13 simultaneously.
00:09:17 For these huge chemical information systems, the same two basic facts apply.
00:09:22 It costs money to operate the equipment, and you get much better results if the operator
00:09:28 is an information professional skilled in the art.
00:09:33 Without skill, accessing the computer can run up the cost rapidly without running up
00:09:39 the score.
00:09:41 Much of the information online deals with text, author, title, keywords, abstracts.
00:09:50 But with sophisticated computer graphics and online substructure searching, there is a
00:09:55 whole universe of new possibilities.
00:10:00 Since substances with similar structures are likely to have similar properties, it is helpful
00:10:07 to get the facts early about what to expect from substances similar to the one you're
00:10:13 investigating.
00:10:14 I'm going to run a literature search.
00:10:21 What are you interested in searching?
00:10:22 I'm interested in metal by thiocarbamates as fungicides.
00:10:26 Are you interested in the general class of compounds or in one specific compound?
00:10:31 No, I'm interested in any compound which has been reported over the last 10 to 15 years.
00:10:36 Could you draw me a structure of what you're interested in?
00:10:41 Basically, what I want are any compounds within this general class.
00:10:47 There are several ways I can approach this.
00:10:49 Since you're interested in structures in general, I think it would be appropriate if I
00:10:54 searched this on the C.A.S.
00:10:55 online system.
00:10:59 As answers to Joanne's question are found, they are immediately sent back for display on
00:11:04 her graphics terminal screen.
00:11:12 Structure diagrams are included in each response.
00:11:15 This is an excellent example of a structure diagram.
00:11:18 Colin, like many other chemists, finds structure and substructure searching the most precise
00:11:24 and useful means of identifying substances or classes of compounds.
00:11:29 Joanne's search for metal dithiocarbamates retrieved over 400 substances from the C.A.S.
00:11:35 online file.
00:11:37 Colin found the results revealing.
00:11:39 The search was a very interesting one.
00:11:42 It was demonstrated that some metals had been put in there that I hadn't appreciated
00:11:49 previously, salts were made that I hadn't previously realized, and some fairly complex
00:11:53 molecules have been synthesized and recorded in the literature.
00:11:58 Beside this terminal, what do I need to do this search or any search in any other
00:12:03 database? First, I must pay for the subscription.
00:12:07 I must have the right hardware.
00:12:09 I must know the system commands and the database content.
00:12:13 I must keep up with system changes.
00:12:16 And yes, I must be prepared to pay for connect time and for printouts.
00:12:21 But there are many resources.
00:12:25 There are scores of databases, most produced separately to serve specialized or
00:12:30 generalized fields.
00:12:32 Many are available online, but only in part in most cases.
00:12:37 From 1976 on, for instance, or from 1970, it's a full time job to keep up with changes
00:12:46 to know when to search online, when to go to hard copy.
00:12:50 Each database has its own terminology, protocol, user manuals, training requirements.
00:12:56 In some cases, the information is available online before it's in print.
00:13:01 In others, the printed version carries more or perhaps less detail than the database,
00:13:07 depending on the year, of course.
00:13:09 Dealing with each one separately could be both costly and cumbersome.
00:13:15 That is why many research groups in government, universities and industry set up
00:13:20 information centers staffed with information professionals.
00:13:24 They negotiate contracts with the major systems like these, which let them access
00:13:29 scores of these databases.
00:13:32 Skilled information specialists handle the search mechanics in consultation with the
00:13:37 chemists, and the mechanics can be complex.
00:13:41 Just for openers, consider something as basic as nomenclature.
00:13:46 What do you call the chemical substance you're looking for?
00:13:51 Many chemicals are known by a multiplicity of names.
00:13:54 These names are used interchangeably by authors and indexers, depending on when the
00:13:59 technical paper or patent was published, what country, what language, or the source for
00:14:04 the abstract journal itself.
00:14:06 By any other name, every word you see on the screen is formaldehyde.
00:14:12 Take something as simple as gold.
00:14:14 I was searching online for reclaiming gold from a process.
00:14:18 I had to use 14 ways to enter the system.
00:14:21 Unless you entered all 14, you'd miss something.
00:14:25 The only way you get information out of a computer is the way it was put in exactly.
00:14:31 Flashes, stars, hyphens and spaces included.
00:14:37 I had a chemist on the phone the other day asking me to search for tetraethyl lead.
00:14:42 There are a lot of references in the open literature to tetraethyl lead.
00:14:46 Certainly he doesn't want everything on this substance.
00:14:49 But if he means pure tetraethyl lead, most of the references will be of no help.
00:14:54 What most authors call tetraethyl lead is usually one of many mixtures on the market
00:14:59 today which have only a percent of tetraethyl.
00:15:03 It's not just different names for one substance, it's different substances for one
00:15:08 name. A good information professional gets real job satisfaction out of helping by
00:15:15 contributing to the progress of a research project.
00:15:19 Many of them have advanced degrees in chemistry and chemical engineering.
00:15:23 Almost all have additional degrees in the fields like information and computer
00:15:28 sciences or library science.
00:15:31 To interface between chemists and the mountain of information they may need means
00:15:36 being a lot more than an electronic file cabinet.
00:15:40 Did she say mountain?
00:15:41 This curve of the number of abstracts published in CA says it all.
00:15:50 This was the volume in 1947.
00:15:54 Now 60 percent of all of the chemical literature published in the world has been
00:16:00 published since 1967.
00:16:04 Chemical information professionals hold the keys to the valuable resources which help
00:16:10 chemists build the future, not reinvent the past.
00:16:15 Certainly the creation of new chemical information is expensive and we all know it
00:16:21 is a value.
00:16:23 Total R&D budget of the major chemical companies worldwide is in the order of
00:16:28 several billions of dollars.
00:16:31 Bob, tell me about ITIMG.
00:16:35 Jean, ITIMG stands for the Industrial Technical Information Managers Group.
00:16:42 This is an informal association of managers of corporate systems for handling
00:16:49 technical information.
00:16:50 Currently we have representatives from most of the major American companies, the
00:16:57 electrical and mechanical as well as the chemical companies.
00:17:01 As your group sees it, what can be said about funding for the chemical information
00:17:06 activity?
00:17:07 We in ITIMG are in general agreement that the major corporations spend about one
00:17:13 tenth percent of sales in managing corporate information resources on behalf of
00:17:19 our working scientists.
00:17:22 We continue to debate with our management.
00:17:25 We would like to spend more money.
00:17:28 Management tells us to spend more wisely than money in our current budgets.
00:17:33 How can we as information managers better serve our scientists in the future?
00:17:40 We need better access to the literature.
00:17:43 The pre-1965 registration effort of chemical abstract service is a major step in
00:17:48 the right direction.
00:17:51 I hope the project will be funded adequately.
00:17:53 And I also hope that this effort can be extended to cover the literature back to
00:17:58 1907 and earlier.
00:18:02 Other major vendors of chemical information services should be encouraged to do
00:18:06 likewise.
00:18:08 That is to provide better access to the literature handled by their services.
00:18:14 You've been talking about information that's been created in the past.
00:18:17 What about the future?
00:18:18 There are important new technologies based on chemicals and chemical reactions which
00:18:22 are developing rapidly.
00:18:25 Examples are new microelectronic devices, chips, gene modification, biomedical
00:18:32 advances.
00:18:34 Innovations in these areas of human endeavor will generate large numbers of
00:18:38 publications in the learned journals in the future, which must be indexed properly
00:18:43 for efficient retrieval.
00:18:45 In short, I'm more concerned about the quality of the intellectual effort which is
00:18:50 necessary for the future of information retrieval.
00:18:54 Certainly there will be advances in computer-based systems, machines, and the
00:18:59 awareness in the information community of how best to use these systems.
00:19:04 But this is a minor concern to me.
00:19:08 What do we in chemical information need to do to meet the needs of the future?
00:19:12 What do we in chemical information need to do to meet the challenge?
00:19:16 Increasingly in the future, we in industry will recruit very competent people to help
00:19:21 us serve the interest of our working scientists.
00:19:25 We will recruit people with the best balance of intellectual abilities,
00:19:29 educational background, experience in the corporate enterprise, and interest in
00:19:34 helping others solve their very difficult problems.
00:19:38 I believe it is fair to say that corporate management in this country is well aware
00:19:43 of the value of technical information retrieval systems, and we in this field will
00:19:49 continue to receive the support we deserve.
00:19:55 In some ways, guiding a research project through to success can be compared to
00:20:01 playing a video game.
00:20:02 The sudden appearance of competitors taking unexpected positions of strength can force
00:20:07 abrupt changes in direction.
00:20:10 Failure to react promptly when new barriers spring up can mean disaster.
00:20:17 To win, you must keep your eye on the whole field.
00:20:21 Take control of new directions which offer the best chance for the longest clear path
00:20:26 and the highest score in time available.
00:20:29 The only way to score high is by making decisions based on all the information that
00:20:35 you can use to your advantage.
00:20:39 Are you looking for the right job in the chemical information profession?
00:20:44 Are you looking for the right chemical professional to do a job for you?
00:20:49 The Chemical Information Division of the American Chemical Society, with the help of
00:20:53 its hundreds of members, has been working on a number of projects.
00:20:57 With the help of its hundreds of members, is the place to go for answers?
00:21:03 In 1982, the American Chemical Society recognized our division, the Division of
00:21:08 Chemical Information, for outstanding performance.
00:21:13 Almost every year, the Division of Chemical Information presents the Skolnick Award,
00:21:17 established in the name of our first awardee, Dr. Herman Skolnick, in 1976.
00:21:23 The award is made to an individual who has made outstanding contributions to the field
00:21:27 of chemical information, an award which both recognizes and encourages excellence in our field.
00:21:38 Taken together, the thousand or so members of the Chemical Information Division, working
00:21:43 with other information professionals worldwide, are a vital resource for the success of every
00:21:49 chemist, chemical engineer, biochemist, physical chemist.
00:21:56 We are at work before the chemist asks the question, collecting, systematizing, programming
00:22:02 the information the chemist may suddenly demand.
00:22:06 We work with the chemist during his research, supplying more information as he probes, changes
00:22:12 direction, makes the responsible choices between the known and the unknown.
00:22:18 We are at work after the research is finished, recording and organizing the published information,
00:22:23 data, patents, integrating it into the world supply of chemical information.
00:22:31 For more information on the service, the careers, the challenges at the interface between chemists
00:22:38 and their questions, contact the Chemical Information Division of the American Chemical Society.
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