Mary K. Gall matriculated at Vassar College. Originally she was interesed in bacteriology, but she decided to major in chemistry. She felt she did not have enough 'drive' for medical school, and she always wanted to be a lab person, not an academic, a view confirmed by jobs she was given in the chemistry lab. During the interview Gall discusses changes she has seen in the chemistry field, particulary, and in science generally, especially changes for women. She highlights the need for a PhD and tenure obstacles for women.